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  1. Loren Coleman
    Loren Coleman January 13, 2006 at 12:25 pm |

    The publishing of this story (which I learned about earlier this week) is a pure coincidence on this date, with regard to the number of cryptids seen.

    I have written before about the fact that there is a primate named the potto, which is a central African loris, that does have spikes that comes through it’s neck and upper back skin/fur, from its spine. The spikes stand up when the potto is threatened by a predator, so the attacker cannot bite the potto on the neck.

    So much for there not being any primates with spikes.

  2. Loren Coleman
    Loren Coleman January 14, 2006 at 11:32 pm |

    I appreciate all the comments, even the skeptical one, the ones that disagree with my post, or challenge me. That’s great, and I enjoy the thinking that is going on here.

    A couple points…

    As I mentioned in my original posting, there is an overt similarity to several cryptids around the world that “appear” to have spikes on their backs, even if it is only in outward appearance. Hair can appear in many rigid and funny ways.

    The use of the term “porcupine-like quills” was via my informant. I have not used the phrase “porcupine” to describe these, personally.

    The example of the potto was merely to demonstrate that “spike”-like structures have been seen on primates. Nature’s designs are rather amazing.

    As was quoted above, it is in the zoological literature that the potto’s little spikes from the vertebra came through the skins. This observation was reinforced in comments by zoologist Ivan T. Sanderson who also saw them coming through the skin on the ones he handled and examined on his animal collecting expeditions to Afric.

  3. Loren Coleman
    Loren Coleman January 16, 2006 at 2:15 pm |

    The experience of knowing one person who may have created a hoax and who said they were a SEAL is hardly proof this story is a hoax.

    This account is shared to further the investigation of this possible encounter. If we shut the door to exploring it too early, we may not allow a valuable report to tell us more about what is going on in the world of unknown apes in the Congo.

    Needless to say, some intriguing things have been happening there with reports of the Bili or Bondo cryptid ape. This may be related to those sightings. Or it might be an encounter with some new apes having a bad hair day? Let’s keep any open mind about these.

    As to the primary informant, he is very nervous because he just left the service. He happened to overhear someone who was mentioning cryptozoology work in the Congo, and mentioned his experience. That’s how this all came to my attention, through backchannels. This former Navy SEAL requires and requests no publicity be drawn to himself, regarding this case. He is not involved in cryptozoology and doesn’t really seem to care about the field at all. I don’t like this secrecy part of this investigation, but I understand it. That’s why, of course, I am looking for secondary confirmations. And like most of you, remain skeptical but interested to see where this is going to lead.

  4. Loren Coleman
    Loren Coleman January 19, 2006 at 4:58 pm |

    Just a few points…

    I’ve posted dozens and dozens of entries here, written over 500 articles, and as opposed to “government coverup” being the theme of most of those cases, this one story is the exception to the rule.

    For anyone to say “I find it odd that the U.S. would even have anything to do with the Congo,” only shows a lack of realistic understanding of what intelligence and black operations are occurring around the globe by several branches of the military.

    Same goes for this part of the comments that “he alone and none of his compatriots that undertook this mission and supposedly witnessed these creatures is willing to speak.”

    As for thinking that others in this man’s unit are “holding back” or not stepping forward, frankly, most people don’t care about their interactions with strange animals. We do. That’s why we are talking about them. The majority of the population ignores and ridicules this material, so why would they even feel that anyone would want to listen?

    Most soldiers are soldiers, not naturalists. It is only by chance that we heard about any of this encounter.

  5. Loren Coleman
    Loren Coleman February 20, 2006 at 9:05 am |

    F215, sorry, but the Navy-SEAL sighting is only vaguely like the Bili Ape accounts and their reported video (which has also not been shared with the public). The only common factors are the Congo and hairy creatures. The Bili Ape is more gorilla-like, whereas these cryptids are bipedal, small, aggressive, spiked, and match the cryptid in the drawing above. There is no copycat here, especially as the Navy encounters also happened with the acknowledgement from this eyewitness of the concurrent sightings elsewhere of more anthropoid unknown apes. The Bili Ape is nothing like these, and the eyewitness did not even attempt to make it sound like a Bili one.

    Two different types of cams, two different types of animals (pongids vs hominiods), two different types of encounters, and two very different stories.

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