Comments on: What Changed the Face of Bigfoot?

By: DWA

DWA — Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:55:25 +0000

Here are two interesting reports in their description of the subject, particularly the face.

http://bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=39268
http://woodape.org/reports/report/detail/429

Several things worth noting here:

1) We have an inherent bias in these matters. Anything that looks remotely human is going to register big time and shift the naive observer’s take toward “human.” Shoot, Bobbie Short has them down as human based on the footprints.

2) When I first saw a close-up of an orangutan’s face, as a small child, my reaction was: THAT’S A PERSON!

3) When National Geographic put the A. afarensis baby on its cover with the headline “First Child”, I thought: that’s an orangutan.

4) Artists only have the witness’s description to go on. That leaves a lot of room for error.

The face doesn’t make it any more human than bipedalism (birds) and footprints do.

By: DWA

DWA — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:45:40 +0000

poeticsofbigfoot: oh, I’d like to know what Loren thinks too, but for my money, if you are gonna make a suit, make one that looks like your drawing. That would have been easy. But Patterson demonstrably didn’t.

By: poeticsofbigfoot

poeticsofbigfoot — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:54:12 +0000

Elvis? You’re kidding, right? I’d like to know what Loren thinks.

By: alanborky

alanborky — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:17:09 +0000

Loren looking at Patty again it finally dawned on me who she reminded me of.

Biffa Bacon in The Viz

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/cartoon/2009/nov/07/1

And Bully Beef out The Dandy

http://bigrab.wordpress.com/tag/bully-beef-and-chips/

And if Biffa and Bully’s mums don’t clue you in Patty’s relatives still dwell in Britain how’s about this for living proof Patty actually hails from Liverpool!

http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/24167-i-didnt-know-that-biffa-bacons-mother-supported-liverpool/

By: DWA

DWA — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:46:40 +0000

I should have noted:

Look at Robert Bateman’s (prominent wildlife artist, from Canada) painting of a sasquatch.

http://proxy.baremetal.com/artcountrycanada.com/images/bateman-sasquatch-cropped.jpg

Looks like he got his nose take from Bindernagel, another Canadian, and their Jeff Meldrum, really, so no surprise there.

What the heck. Here’s Bateman’s yeti:

http://www.sasquatchresearch.net/images/yetibateman.jpg

Another gorillanose.

By: DWA

DWA — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:42:15 +0000

mandors: That is interesting about the dichotomy on what’s-the-nose-like. I remember telling John Bindernagel at the 2009 Texas Bigfoot Conference about the hooded nose being a prominent feature of many reports; he expressed surprise. I’d bet personally based on my read that when I see one, it won’t have a nose like a gorilla.

PoeticsOfBigfoot: Not sure how “remarkable” the Patterson drawing is. To me it looks much more like Elvis than it does like Patty. I definitely would expect that drawing to come from before his seeing what one actually looked like.

By: poeticsofbigfoot

poeticsofbigfoot — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:53:25 +0000

Loren, can you clarify something for me? I’ve never seen the sketch by Patterson- he drew it before the P-G film? If so, that’s remarkable, don’t you think? Excellent post, thanks!

By: mandors

mandors — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:10:05 +0000

My limited understanding is that the variance in depiction may lie in the theoretical versus the actual. The real difference as I see it is in the nose. Actual witnesses consistently report a “hooded” or more humanlike nose, while the theorists, e.g., the giganto crowd, show a more simian nose. For my two cents, if Bigfoot exists, it is clearly bipedal a trait which predates modern great apes, and as such most likely would have evolved on a similar path as humans, making a hooded nose more likely.

By: Loren Coleman

Loren Coleman — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 01:55:05 +0000

Yes, RPJ, exactly. But the source of WT’s drawings were not reconstructions. They were not evolved cultural imagery. They were done from direct eyewitnesses being interviewed and under their direction. The P-G threshold is a branch in the road, not a waterfall event.

By: Red Pill Junkie

Red Pill Junkie — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:25:23 +0000

And yet the Thompson’s drawings are more recent than the P-G film.