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	<title>Comments on: Yetis, Polar Bears, Snowmen, Snow Bears, Dzu-Tehs, and Jumping To Abominable Conclusions</title>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptozoonews.com/abominable-bears/comment-page-1/#comment-58321</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the link immediately above, and scoftics take note:

&lt;em&gt;But even if hardcore skeptics think that the legend of the Meh-Teh, is a pathetic attempt to cling to the hope of finding &amp; undiscovered ape-like creature roaming the jungles &amp; hills of the Himalayas, perhaps they should consider that it’s their snark &amp; mockery one of the reasons serious research like the one performed by Sykes takes a long time to come by. Out of folklore &amp; myth now comes a living animal that awaits to be formally found.&lt;/em&gt;

Yep.  Scoffing and snarking is - always - why it takes so long.  And isn&#039;t that the thing they&#039;re scoffing and snarking about most, the mess they&#039;re causing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the link immediately above, and scoftics take note:</p>
<p><em>But even if hardcore skeptics think that the legend of the Meh-Teh, is a pathetic attempt to cling to the hope of finding &amp; undiscovered ape-like creature roaming the jungles &amp; hills of the Himalayas, perhaps they should consider that it’s their snark &amp; mockery one of the reasons serious research like the one performed by Sykes takes a long time to come by. Out of folklore &amp; myth now comes a living animal that awaits to be formally found.</em></p>
<p>Yep.  Scoffing and snarking is &#8211; always &#8211; why it takes so long.  And isn&#8217;t that the thing they&#8217;re scoffing and snarking about most, the mess they&#8217;re causing?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pills of the Week — October 26th &#124; Mysterious Universe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptozoonews.com/abominable-bears/comment-page-1/#comment-58319</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pills of the Week — October 26th &#124; Mysterious Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to be just that: a man, or something more closely resembling to it than a bear. Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman has been quick to point out that Yeti is a blanket term created by Westerners to describe a range [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be just that: a man, or something more closely resembling to it than a bear. Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman has been quick to point out that Yeti is a blanket term created by Westerners to describe a range [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptozoonews.com/abominable-bears/comment-page-1/#comment-58311</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sykes said Thursday that the tests showed the creatures were not related to modern Himalayan bears but were direct descendants of the prehistoric animal.

He said, “it may be a new species, it may be a hybrid” between polar bears and brown bears.

“The next thing is go there and find one.”

This is what I believe is the true value of Sykes&#039;s work.  He isn&#039;t proving anything but that here&#039;s a novel DNA sequence the most parsimonious explanation of which is:  novel species, which needs to be confirmed with a type specimen.


&#039;Sykes said he was simply trying “to inject some science into a rather murky field.”&#039;

“The Yeti, the Bigfoot, is surrounded in myth and hoaxes,” he said. “But you can’t invent a DNA sequence from a hair.”

Right.  You can&#039;t.  But you don&#039;t have an animal either, and you need to get one (for no other reason than to show they&#039;re still there).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sykes said Thursday that the tests showed the creatures were not related to modern Himalayan bears but were direct descendants of the prehistoric animal.</p>
<p>He said, “it may be a new species, it may be a hybrid” between polar bears and brown bears.</p>
<p>“The next thing is go there and find one.”</p>
<p>This is what I believe is the true value of Sykes&#8217;s work.  He isn&#8217;t proving anything but that here&#8217;s a novel DNA sequence the most parsimonious explanation of which is:  novel species, which needs to be confirmed with a type specimen.</p>
<p>&#8216;Sykes said he was simply trying “to inject some science into a rather murky field.”&#8217;</p>
<p>“The Yeti, the Bigfoot, is surrounded in myth and hoaxes,” he said. “But you can’t invent a DNA sequence from a hair.”</p>
<p>Right.  You can&#8217;t.  But you don&#8217;t have an animal either, and you need to get one (for no other reason than to show they&#8217;re still there).</p>
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		<title>By: TWS266: Time To Split Heirs Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWS266: Time To Split Heirs Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (EXTRA) Is the fact that an entirely new (sub)species of bear might have been found crowded out by the &#8220;yeti&#8221; talk?: Cryptozoonews  &#8211; Yetis, Polar Bears, Snowmen, Snow Bears, Dzu-Tehs, and Jumping To Abominable Conclusions [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (EXTRA) Is the fact that an entirely new (sub)species of bear might have been found crowded out by the &#8220;yeti&#8221; talk?: Cryptozoonews  &#8211; Yetis, Polar Bears, Snowmen, Snow Bears, Dzu-Tehs, and Jumping To Abominable Conclusions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alanborky</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptozoonews.com/abominable-bears/comment-page-1/#comment-58293</link>
		<dc:creator>alanborky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Wikipedia has this unfortunate sentence in their description of the Himalayan Brown Bear: “The bear (as the Dzu-Teh) is thought to be the source of the legend of the Yeti.”&#039;

Depends on y&#039;u agenda whether it&#039;s unfortunate or not...

But Loren this&#039;s been one hell of an education for me I&#039;ve always assumed bears all looked like bears but there&#039;s one up there the sun bear (Helarctos malayanus) which could easily be mistaken for a weird type of pig especially on all fours.

And the Himalayan Brown Bear (Ursus arctos isabellinus) looks like a weird corgi or terrier.

I&#039;m fairly certain if I&#039;d been out there in the wild and anyone but you&#039;d tried to convince me we were lookin&#039; at bears I&#039;d&#039;ve give &#039;em a right mouthful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Wikipedia has this unfortunate sentence in their description of the Himalayan Brown Bear: “The bear (as the Dzu-Teh) is thought to be the source of the legend of the Yeti.”&#8217;</p>
<p>Depends on y&#8217;u agenda whether it&#8217;s unfortunate or not&#8230;</p>
<p>But Loren this&#8217;s been one hell of an education for me I&#8217;ve always assumed bears all looked like bears but there&#8217;s one up there the sun bear (Helarctos malayanus) which could easily be mistaken for a weird type of pig especially on all fours.</p>
<p>And the Himalayan Brown Bear (Ursus arctos isabellinus) looks like a weird corgi or terrier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly certain if I&#8217;d been out there in the wild and anyone but you&#8217;d tried to convince me we were lookin&#8217; at bears I&#8217;d've give &#8216;em a right mouthful.</p>
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